Outboard motors with no title in Texas= Trouble. (2023)


I just went through the process of register for my boat and motor. and it was not easy and simple like it used to be. they made it very complicated. especially the motor which I have no title for it.


All right today we are going to talk about how easy to get title registration for the boat, motor and trailer in texas and well folk.

It's not simple, like used to be anymore, so there's some guy out there making a videos about you know buying a boat with no title, and you know he make it clear.

You know that this is not simple and easy anymore.

Well, in this case, I'm not talking about.

I bought this boat with the title, but the motor is not tighter.

This is where all the complications coming from now it used to be.

You can just go down there and if you don't want to register your motor, you might get away with it, but now they will not.

Let me register the boat train for the title, the boat, without the mode of being registered as well.

So I went down there to the tax office and this is what they told me that I need to do so.

I told them well just go ahead and register the boats, and I already have a title from the owner that side up to me and then I can deal with the motor later, maybe put another motor on where they say well until I put the new motors on and I can go downstairs and apply for it, you know, but right now they just you know they have to do all the process all at once.

Well, let's talking about the application that you you got to do now, so, let's start with the bill of sale.

Well, this is the bill of sale that we just had to redo because they denied the first bill of sale that just the simple bill of cell.

That's saying you know me so-and-so, sell vote, motor and trailer to john does, for the total price of just say a 150 dollar.

Well, they told me that I had to come back to the cellar and get a detailed, build cell.

You clearly say right here: you have to break it down to three part: the boat, the motor and the trailer, and you have to put the details in there.

It's the boat serial number model number year.

The motor is the same thing.

You know serial number model number and the trailer.

You know how much is weight in what year, what model you know so on and break it down to a total price, just say: 150 dollars just say so now you have to do fifty dollar for the boat, fifty dollar, for a motor and fifty dollar for the trail.


Now and then you make sure you got this form, they call you know the vegetable application uh pwd 143, which is actually is for the boat title transfer and make sure that your seller signed up sign right there.

Let's say the only signature fill out all you can and make sure he sided.


Now that's for the boat title now come and then, if your trailer have a register tax already one like this already under the previous owner name, and then you had to get this application.

You know for title and registration, okay, that's for the trailer and make sure you fill everything out.

If, if, if that person don't have time for it, you fill everything out and make sure they side right there, okay, the signature right there and now come to the motor part.

It's getting very complicated! Now this motor that I have will not register and that's a good thing if the motor have never been registered in state of texas and there's a very good chance that you get the motor to tidal and rages now, if the mode is being registered in the state of texas you're going to have to track down the original owner of that motor.

Now, if it go into four or five different owner previous owner before you and that had to go to each one of the owner doing the title transfer, if they even filed a title and the first owner had to transfer it to the one that sell before and then the one after and after after until it get to you, so that process can be it's almost impossible.

It's! So if you find a motor that people say no title, I not discourage you not to buy it, but get the serial number of that motor and the and the model number and go into a texas park and wildlife website and search for that serial number of that motor.

If that motor have not been registered, then only a few paperwork that you got to do and we will go to that detail a little bit, but you got a good chance to get that motor register and title all right.

So in my case it will not register in state of texas.

Now it could have been registered somewhere else.

You know in florida or some other state, but along it's not registered in state of texas.

Then you got a good chance to get this title now.

You also have to check that serial number on this uh on the stolen database, our motor stolen database.

You know you can go on google and search there's a bunch of them out there.

I went through so many of them sitting there and scroll down to like 20 30 pages of every whatever making model you have and they have a database at least and check every serial number.

It's been stolen and if it's not being stolen, there's also a good chance that you know you will get it to title now.

To do that, you have still have this form right here.

It's called our motor application, pwd 144, okay, pwd 144, fill everything out.

You know about a motor which is you know the serial number you know uh so and so, and so all right and how many horsepower year with bills- and you know all that stuff and after in half the owner, the seller side, signature print name.

Is you know right there, all right? So after that you have to get another form called affidavit of fact, it's a pwd 314.

This is for the mode and they have two parts, one of them for both information, which is if the bulk already have the title side over to you, then don't worry about it.

Just go into the motor check on the motor information and you enter the motor serial numbers and years, and so and so and then this is the part that the seller had to fill it out to explain the situation why he not or she not register that motive.

So you can say he can say that he or you bought from somebody else, and somebody didn't tell you nothing about you know you had to raise yourself for the motors, so you didn't know nothing about it and whatever that you need to tell them that why you're not registered for that mode now and then make sure you know, put the name side and all the information they need to.

You know from the seller now, after that, you have to go, get another form called verification of vessel and an outboard motor serial number.

This is a.

This is a form right here called pwd 504.

What this form telling you that now you acquire this modem and you you find out that this motor have never been registered, so you go ahead and really applying.

For you know this motive to be title and register so as in here they explain to you that if you can't see the serial numbers or it's been fade off or whatever it is, this is a little section right here.

They say you can put try to put the pencil and chasing the serial number.

You know on on that motive or if it's visible, you just check it right here say the attachment photo, take a picture of it, which is right here.

You know open up the I mean open up the cowling of the motor and then take a picture or fire one right where the tail and trim is and take a picture of it and then print it out, along with this application right here, 504 and pwd 314 and pwd 144.

So you got one two, three form that you got to do and then the serial number and the model the model number for your motor and make sure all this formula fill it out detail, as you can explain why that motor is not being registered by the seller.

The seller had to describe that and and saw and signature psy, and you know they and all that and now you're good to go.

But, like I say we were out in the water and we got pulled over and uh.

The sticker attack on the boat was still good for another eight eight months under this previous owner, but he gave us the title.

So we brought everything with us on the boat.

You know over the weekend and thinking about okay.

Well, you know today we're gonna do all the title transfer and all that stuff, because we got like 45 days.

So you know from the purchase uh we gotta pull over and takes his pardon wildlife check the boat vessel.

I give him a vote card from the previous owner title and all that stuff.

He don't have problem with that.

He had a problem with the motors not being registered and I guess they can pull up by serial number or vince number or whatever.

It is.

So he told me if that motor, if he ever see that motor out in the water again without a registration or title to that motor.

He was, he would ride me a ticket and he will come confiscate that motor.

Now I don't know, is anybody out there having been come, the motor being you know, seized or complicated confiscated.

Oh you know, I don't have any evidence of anybody having you know through that, but this is the warning that he gave us, so I just want to pass it on.

This is a public announcement that you know.

I have five vote in the past 20 years and I never never have to go through the hoop just to get registered and it's just getting very ridiculous.

But this is what's happening right now and you know the fact here is: I'm lucky that I'd be able to do all this at the courthouse where I live, I don't have to go down to.

You, know texas park wildlife because right now with the covet 19, they only take appointment.

Only so imagine you have to drive an hour to get to that location by the appointment right now they say it's about three to four weeks.

You know like in advance just saying you go down there and you have.

None of this paper will properly fill out they're going to send you right back and now you got to go track the seller and get them to do all the prop for paperwork or whatever need to be done now.

If that person willing to you know, go extra mile after that, he sold use.

Boats and trailers already got your money and he don't want nothing to do with you anymore, and you basically really sol so make sure when you go buy a boat.

You get all this application with.

You have a seller fill out, everything need to be filled out and then sigh date make sure, because you do not want to go, make appointment to go down there.

You know to texas park wildlife, and then they tell you, you need something else so and then now you gotta call and reschedule for another appointment which it might take another three to four weeks or longer.

We don't know that.

But what I'm saying here is the guy out.

You know a few years ago make a video about you know, buying a boat with no title and all that stuff and he wasn't kidding and this boat I bought actually have title he's, have a title sign it over to me and they still gave me a lot of problem that I still need to build up.

Sale got to be correct, you can't just say hey, you know I sold this and that that no you have to they have to break them down to three separate.

You know: items like boat motor and trailers, detail everything that you can or he can you know on that receipt.

So that's just the information I you know like I say I own the boat five boat in the past 20 years.

This is the most complicated and headache that I'm going through right now.

So hopefully everything worked out and I will update your guy how everything worked out.

You know, I'm gonna go to the courthouse now and turn all this paper back in.

That's what they asked me to do and see what happened so once again, be careful anything say no title bolt motor! Well, the trailer you might get away with it, but if you don't have one of this for the trailer, if he never register, and then the lady told me that they have to actually send me to a dmv and I had to go there and do a trailer registration.

You know if it's under 2 000 pound and I had to take the picture.

I don't know how many picture they want every corner, every u-bolt or wheel and tire uh, so they can be registered now.

If you have one of this and then basically, you just have to fill out this application and go ahead and get the trailer you know transfer under to your name.

So this is all the information I have so far and I will update y'all about how it's gone, but uh dude, it's just a nightmare.

All right, y'all guys have a good day.


Outboard motors with no title in Texas= Trouble.? ›

All motorized vessels, regardless of length (including any sailboat with an auxiliary engine); All non-motorized vessels (including sailboats) 14 feet in length or longer; and. All internal combustion (gasoline/diesel/propane powered) outboard motors must be titled.

Do outboard motors need to be titled in Texas? ›

All motorized vessels, regardless of length (including any sailboat with an auxiliary engine); All non-motorized vessels (including sailboats) 14 feet in length or longer; and. All internal combustion (gasoline/diesel/propane powered) outboard motors must be titled.

What year did Texas start titling outboard motors? ›

Effective January 1, 1994, all motorboats and all outboard motors must be titled.

Can you get a bonded title on an outboard motor in Texas? ›

About the bond

The Texas Certificate of Title Boat or Outboard Motor Bond starts at $100 plus shipping costs and fees. Fill out the form to buy your bond instantly!

Do outboard engines have titles? ›

Outboard motors over 10 horsepower must be titled and have a current Certificate of Registration.

What vessels are exempt from being titled in Texas? ›

What boats are exempt?
  • Your vessel is a non-motorized canoe, kayak, punt, rowboat or rubber raft.
  • Your vessel is under 14 feet in length and non-motorized.
  • Your vessel is documented by the Coast Guard and used as a coastal shipping vessel.
  • Your vessel exceeds 115 feet in length.
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Can you claim an abandoned boat Texas? ›

Under Texas Parks & Wildlife Code § 31.0466, if a person finds an abandoned vessel on their property they can apply for a certificate of title through the Department of Parks and Wildlife, providing they report the vessel as abandoned to local law enforcement through certified mail at least 30 days prior to filing an ...

Can you get a boat title with a bill of sale in Texas? ›

The purchaser must obtain the signed title along with a bill of sale and should complete the rest of the application and sign. Do NOT purchase a used boat or motor without obtaining a signed title and a bill of sale from the titled seller or their legal representative (obtain copy of authorizing document).

Can you register a boat trailer without a title in Texas? ›

If it is a new trailer, you must bring the Manufacturer Certificate of Origin (MCO). If the trailer is used but has a gross weight of 4,000 pounds or less, bring a bill of sale and registration receipt. If the trailer is used and has a gross weight exceeding 4,000 pounds, you will need to bring the trailer's title.

Are old 2 stroke outboard motors banned? ›

There are no states that have outright banned all two-stroke boat motors. However, several states have implemented strict regulations and restrictions on older two-stroke engines which do not meet modern emission standards. California, for example, has stringent regulations on two-stroke engines.

Do outboard motors have VIN numbers? ›

On the side of your motor you'll find a plate. This tells you the make, model and serial number. You'll only need the serial number if it's an outboard motor.

Do outboard boat motors have VIN numbers? ›

All engines will have a serial number on them. This serial number is generally located on the mounting bracket on the engine near the swivel tube.

Why is a bonded title needed in Texas? ›

A Texas Bonded Title (also known as a Certificate of Title Bond, Defective Title Bond, Lost Vehicle Title Bond or DMV Bond) allows a vehicle owner to claim ownership and register the vehicle with the state when a title has been lost, stolen or is missing.

Can a bonded title become a clean title in Texas? ›

The 3-5 year time period starts from the date the original bonded title was issued. It does not start over if the title is transferred into someone else's name. Once the 3-5 year period ends, it is the responsibility of the current title owner to go to the DMV and apply for a clean title.

How much is a bonded title worth in Texas? ›

After you have undertaken the title process and it is approved you will be requested to provide a bond valued at 1.5 times of your car's value. This in simpler terms means that if your car is valued at $14000 the total amount of bond title in Texas will amount to $21000.

Is a trolling motor considered an outboard motor? ›

Electric Outboard Motors Are Not Trolling Motors

Unlike the trolling motors (measured in static thrust) that can only go at slow trolling speed, true electric outboard motors can provide much higher power: They are designed to be used as the primary power source.

What's the difference between outboard motor and engine? ›

The difference is actually within the words; an inboard engine sits within the structure of the boat and is not visible whereas the outboard engine sits outside the structure of the boat and is clearly visible at all times.

Does Nebraska title outboard motors? ›

A Certificate of Title is required for all motorboats manufactured after November 1, 1972 unless the motorboat falls under the specific category of Motorboats Exempt from Titling. If you are attempting to title a motor vehicle, please refer to Certificate of Title – Motor Vehicle.

What is the 50 foot rule in Texas? ›

Obey the 50-foot rule! Maintain a 50-foot distance from other PWC's, vessels, persons, shore, or stationary platform or other object unless operating at headway (idle) speed.

Which of the following vessels are exempt from being titled? ›

There are some boats/vessels that do not have to be registered: Canoes, rowboats, or any boats/vessels that use paddles or oars. Sailboats shorter than eight feet long. Sailboards or parasails.

Can you drink on a boat in Texas? ›

Texas Boating Laws You Need to Understand.

While carrying open containers of alcohol on a boat is legal, drinking and boating is against the law. Most importantly, the blood alcohol concentration (BAC) limitation for boating and drinking is identical to limits for drinking and driving.

What is the statute of limitations on abandoned property in Texas? ›

Another provision of the Texas Property Code, Section 72.101, says that, under certain circumstances, personal property can be presumed abandoned if it is left on the premises for three years.

How long before personal property is considered abandoned in Texas? ›

What is the three-year rule? That is the general escheat rule for personal property. Unclaimed personal property is considered abandoned if, for longer than three years, the location of the owner is unknown and a claim to the property has not been asserted.

How much does it cost to get a lost title for a boat in Texas? ›

Texas Certificate of Title
Type of TitleFee
Certificate of Title - "Standard" - Replacement of Lost or Destroyed Title$27
Certificate of Title- Correction Transaction$27
Certificate of Title- Bonded Title$37
"Quick" Certificate of Title - Expedited Replacement for Lost or Destroyed Title (includes $27 title fee)$64
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Can a bill of sale be handwritten in Texas? ›

Can you hand write a bill of sale in Texas? It is important to make sure all the requirements for the respected state law are included in the bill of sale. As, with any legal written document a bill of sale can be handwritten.

Can you get a title with just a bill of sale in Texas? ›

If you have a bill of sale for your car, you can get a title for it.

Is a bill of sale proof of ownership in Texas? ›

A written record that details the transfer of personal property is also known as a bill of sale. In Texas, a bill of sale is not legally required; however, creating or obtaining one is a valuable way to verify a sale, especially when selling expensive personal property such commercial equipment or precious metals.

Can I register a boat trailer with a bill of sale in Texas? ›

Bill of Sale or Invoice Requirement

A signed bill of sale or invoice is required for every transfer of ownership. Trailers are handled through the local county tax office and the price of the trailer must be separated from the price of the boat and motor.

Can you register a trailer in Texas with no title? ›

Home assembled trailers over 4,000 pounds must be titled. In order to register a new trailer, proof of ownership is required. Used trailers over 4,000 pounds require a certificate of title while used trailers at 4,000 pounds or less require a bill of sale as well as the registration receipt.

Do you need a title for a utility trailer in Texas? ›

If your manufactured trailer's gross weight exceeds 4,000 lbs., it must be titled. Submit the following documents to your county tax assessor-collector office: A completed Application for Texas Title and or Registration (Form 130-U) Applicable fees.

Are new 2-stroke outboards legal? ›

To answer the question plain and simple: no, they are not. In fact, the California Air Resources Board (CARB) has been phasing out the use of 2-cycle outboard motors since 1999. This is because these engines emit more pollutants than their 4-cycle counterparts, and California is committed to improving air quality.

What lakes do not allow 2-stroke motors? ›

The list of lakes where two-stroke engines would be banned includes Tahoe, Havasu, Castaic and Perris, said Mark Denny, government affairs representative of the International Jet Sports Boating Association.

What year did they stop making 2-stroke outboards? ›

However, until recently, due to expense and weight, 4-stroke outboards were not widely accepted. In 2004, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) put an end to the 2-strokes dominance by enacting stricter limits on pollutants, and then in 2007, making the restrictions even stricter.

How can I check a motor serial number? ›

Your serial number is located on your engine plate, often located on the left-hand side of the engine. Typically the first letters and numbers will identify the engine, for example, DJ51279, to find all the parts we have online for your engine.

How can you tell how old an outboard motor is? ›

The serial number can help you determine the year of your engine. Your serial number or model number can be found on the engine's mid-section. Often this plate is also marked with the engine's year too.

Is the hull number the same as the VIN number? ›

The HIN is the Hull Identification Number assigned to the boat. Each HIN is unique to that boat, and is the same as the VIN on a motor vehicle. All boats manufactured after 1972 have a HIN consisting of 12 characters as required by the Federal Boat Safety Act of 1972.

What does a boat VIN number tell you? ›

A Hull Identification Number, or a HIN , is a serial identification number for your watercraft. Similar to a Vehicle Identification Number, or VIN, a HIN provides unique information about your boat, including the make, model year and date of manufacture.

How to tell the age of a Mercury outboard motor by serial number? ›

Every Mercury outboard has a serial number label located on the transom bracket area of the engine. The latest serial number labels display a 2-digit number in a box at the lower right portion of the label. These digits coincide with the last two digits of the year in which the outboard was manufactured.

Can I get a boat title with a bill of sale in Texas? ›

The purchaser must obtain the signed title along with a bill of sale and should complete the rest of the application and sign. Do NOT purchase a used boat or motor without obtaining a signed title and a bill of sale from the titled seller or their legal representative (obtain copy of authorizing document).

Do you have to register a pedal boat in Texas? ›

Vessels Exempted from Registration

Non-motorized canoes, kayaks, punts, rowboats, or rubber rafts (regardless of length), or other vessels under 14 feet in length when paddled, poled, oared or windblown. Adding an outboard or trolling motor to one of these vessel types requires titling and registration.

Is insurance required to register a boat in Texas? ›

Is boat insurance required by law in Texas? Unlike auto insurance, there are no laws in Texas that require insurance for your boat or watercraft. However, if you're considering purchasing a boat, jet ski, personal watercraft, or any other type of watercraft, having insurance is still essential.

Will a bill of sale work as a title in Texas? ›

It's also an important document for the buyer's and the seller's records, and it proves to the DMV that you bought that vehicle from the named seller legally. The bill of sale is not a form of title, but you could use it to obtain the vehicle's title from the DMV.

What are the new boating laws in Texas? ›

New Texas law requires boaters to use engine cutoff switch after teen's death. TRAVIS COUNTY, Texas (KXAN) — A law now in effect across Texas requires boaters to an emergency engine cutoff switch, known as a “kill switch,” if their boat is under 26 feet in length and equipped with the mechanism.

Can I use my boat while waiting on registration in Texas? ›

A: Yes, if the boat is registered in the customer's name, they can operate the vessel for up to 90 consecutive days with current out-of-state registration. However, Use Tax is due upon arrival in Texas.

How much is a ticket for no registration in Texas? ›

Vehicle Equipment, Inspections and Registration Violations and Fines
Expired or no safety inspection sticker$180.00
Expired or no license plate registration$210.00
Expired or no trailer registration sticker$235.00
Fail to secure or tarp loose material$235.00
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Does a boat have to be in your name to insure it? ›

Only a registered title owner of a boat can purchase its insurance. Therefore, you can't insure a boat that's not under your name. So, if you have inherited a boat or received it as a gift and you want to insure it, you should first transfer its title to your name.

What do you need to own a boat in Texas? ›

All motorized vessels up to 115 feet in length and all non-motorized watercraft 14 feet or longer must be registered with the TPWD. Coast guard documented boats must also be registered. All registrations are valid for two years.

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